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#1 compis

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Posted 24 August 2023 - 07:01 PM

Does anyone have an ISP that when you perform a trceroute to your ISP it goes through a private IP address before hitting your ISP ?

 

Vmedia has this issue.



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Posted 24 August 2023 - 07:06 PM

All of them do its how networking works.

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Posted 25 August 2023 - 08:35 AM

Yes, I have a choice of 8 different entry points to the ISP.  The closest one is not always the fastest and my OS seems to figure out which is fastest at that point in time as it changes from time to time.



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Posted 25 August 2023 - 05:26 PM

It is not possible to have 8 different entry point to an ISP.

 

If you perform a traceroute to your ISP you will only get one route. Here is my route to Vmedia. The value 172.23.1.65 is a private IP and should not be anywhere in my route to Vmedia. I have asked vmedia and they refused to answer.

 

traceroute to www.vmedia.ca (172.67.23.185), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  _gateway (192.168.100.1)  7.438 ms  7.354 ms  7.312 ms
 2  192.168.20.1 (192.168.20.1)  9.500 ms  9.467 ms  9.434 ms
 3  192.168.10.1 (192.168.10.1)  16.794 ms  16.747 ms  26.402 ms
 4  3.52.251.198.in-addr.arpa (198.251.52.3)  99.203 ms  99.168 ms  102.461 ms
 5  198.251.49.89 (198.251.49.89)  102.428 ms  102.394 ms  119.475 ms
 6  172.23.1.65 (172.23.1.65)  119.441 ms  41.070 ms  42.209 ms
 7  198.251.50.16 (198.251.50.16)  42.120 ms  97.425 ms  101.289 ms
 8  cloudflare.ip4.torontointernetxchange.net (206.108.34.208)  108.079 ms  108.037 ms  107.998 ms
 9  108.162.239.2 (108.162.239.2)  107.951 ms  107.908 ms  109.844 ms
10  172.67.23.185 (172.67.23.185)  108.978 ms  110.329 ms *



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Posted 25 August 2023 - 05:48 PM

Hop 6 is probably interface on a switch or router connecting hop 5 and hop 7.

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Posted 26 August 2023 - 09:14 AM

Try an internet speed tester and you'll see more than one access point for your testing.  Each will enter the ISP but at different point in their network.  Yes, if I did a trace, then it would only choose the one  point in current use.



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Posted 26 August 2023 - 01:48 PM

I have asked vmedia and they refused to answer.

 

Not their job to teach Networking.  Try this command:

man route

or look for school classes on Ethernet Networks. Shrug-blue-40x40.png
 



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Posted 01 September 2023 - 01:00 PM

What you all stated has nothing to do with the fact that the route 6, is a RFC 1918 private address and should never be on a route to your own ISP, Ever.

 

dominque1 you don;t eve understand the question if your going to look at a help screen. You should learn to read perhaps another post like the back ground pictures on computers.

 

Anyone want to provide there route to there ISP ???



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Posted 01 September 2023 - 01:16 PM

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 04:48 PM

Compis, remember the warning you got a couple of weeks ago. This is getting very close to trolling......and your unnecessary, and derogatory comment directed at Dominique1 is not appreciated.

 

We're keeping a close eye on you. Be very careful from now on.

 

(I'm moving this to Networking. General Chat is not the place for it, IMO.)

 

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 10:02 PM

As stated before a ISP can use internally Private IP addressing for routers, switches, etc. It is once you are out of their network that you will many other IP's along the route. The Internet is no different than getting in your car for a drive and going through various towns.

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 08:53 AM

As stated before a ISP can use internally Private IP addressing for routers, switches, etc. It is once you are out of their network that you will many other IP's along the route. The Internet is no different than getting in your car for a drive and going through various towns.

You know that, I know that. (Compis doubtless does, too, but he just likes making mountains out of molehills purely for the sake of it....) :o

 

 

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Posted 08 September 2023 - 05:45 PM

No ISP uses a internal private IP address  when you trace route to the ISP. If that is the case provide your traceroute to your ISP.

 

I have asked Vmedia to describe the reason and they did not provide an answer. I spoke to a tech and they said they would escalate the issue. You do not escalate the issue if there is no problem. I realized that their technical support functions out of India.



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Posted 08 September 2023 - 07:21 PM

Have you ever worked a help desk before?

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Posted 08 September 2023 - 08:04 PM

No ISP uses a internal private IP address  when you trace route to the ISP. If that is the case provide your traceroute to your ISP.

 

I have asked Vmedia to describe the reason and they did not provide an answer. I spoke to a tech and they said they would escalate the issue. You do not escalate the issue if there is no problem. I realized that their technical support functions out of India.

It has been very obvious over and over that you have zero knowledge of how internal routing and a network works regardless of the size of the system.






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